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Cantata BWV 86
Wahrlich, wahrlich, ich sage euch

Ref.

BWV 86

German Title

Wahrlich, wahrlich, ich sage euch

English Title

Truly, truly, I say unto you (by Alec Robertson)

Event

Cantata for Rogate [5th Sunday after Easter]
Readings: Episle: James. 1: 22-27; Gospel: John 16: 23-30

Composed

Leipzig, 1724
1st performance: May 14, 1724 - Leipzig

Text

John 16: 23 (Mvt. 1); Georg Grünwald (Mvt. 3); Paul Speratus (Mvt. 6); Anon (Mvts. 2, 4, 5)

Text: German-1 | German-6 | German-7 | NBA Text
Translations: Catalan-1 | Chinese-1 | Chinese-2 | Dutch-3 | English-1 | English-3I | English-3P | English-6 | English-10 | French-4 | French-6 | Hebrew-1 | Indonesian-1 | Italian-5 | Russian-1 | Russian-3 | Spanish-3 | Spanish-7
Chorale Texts: Kommt her zu mir, spricht Gottes Sohn | Es ist das Heil uns kommen her

Scoring

Soloists: Soprano, Alto, Tenor, Bass; 4-part Chorus
Orchestra: 2 oboes d'amore, 2 violins, viola, continuo
Mvt. 1: Aria [B] | Mvt. 2: Aria [A] | Mvt. 3: Chorale [S] | Mvt. 4: Recitative [T] | Mvt. 5: Aria [T] | Mvt. 6: Chorale

Score Vocal & Piano [1.35 MB] | Score BGA [1.19 MB]
Autograph Score (Facsimile): D-B Mus. ms. Bach P 157 [Bach Digital]
Chorales: Mvt. 6
Capella: Mvt. 6 [cap]
Chorale Melodies: Kommt her zu mir, spricht Gottes Sohn | Es ist das Heil uns kommen her

References

BGA: XX/1 | NBA: I/12 | BC: A 73 | Zwang: K 69 | First Published: BG, 1872 | Autograph score (facsimile): Berlin, Staatsbibliothek

Commentaries

English: Crouch | AMG | Emmanuel Music | Mincham
EvH [Dutch] | JdW [Dutch] | Role [French] | Reyes [Spanish]

Music

Music Examples

Discussions

Week of May 28, 2000; Week of April 23, 2006; Week of October 31, 2010; Week of May 1, 2016

Contents

 

Complete Recordings
Recordings of Individual Movements

Discussions - Part 1 (1st round)
Discussions - Part 2 (2nd round)
Discussions - Part 3 (3rd round)
Discussions - Part 4 (4th round)

Complete Cantatas Vol. 9 - conducted by Ton Koopman
Bach Edition Vol. 4 & 5 - Cantatas Vol. 1 & 2 - conducted by Pieter Jan Leusink
Cantatas Vol. 19 - conducted by Masaaki Suzuki

Discography - Part 1

Complete Recordings

1

J.S. Bach: Wahrlich, wahrlich ich sage euch, BWV 86 (Radio Recording 15)

 

Cantata BWV 86 [13:04] (incomplete)

Karl Straube

Thomanerchor Leipzig / Stadt- und Gewandhausorchester Leipzig

Alto: Charlotte Wolf-Matthäus; Tenor: Hans Lißmann; Bass: Reinhold Gerhardt
Günther Ramin (Organ); Friedbert Sammler (Harpsichord); Edgar Wollgandt (Violin); Karl Biebl (Oboe); Walter Heinze (Oboe); Günther Weigelt (Bassoon)

RRG-Aufnahme DRA-B003683738

1931

Audio File / TT: 13:04

Recordings of radio live broadcasts of the radio programme "Die Bach-Kantate" from the years 1931/1932, live broadcast of the Mitteldeutschen Rundfunk-AG from the Conference Hall of the Grassi Museum, Leipzig and from mid-November 1931 from the Concert Hall of the First New Gewandhaus, Leipzig, Saxony, Germany.

2

Radio Recording - Archiv-Nr: U0-06923 [R-57]

 

Cantata BWV 86 [19:00]

Max Thurn

Members of NDR-Chor, Mitglieder; Chor des Eppendorfer Gymnasiums (1) / NDR Sinfonieorchester

Alto: Margrit Franke; Tenor: Helmut Kretschmar; Bass: Erich Wenk
Johannes Schlömer (Oboe); Wilhelm Schaper (Oboe); Schneider, August (Violine solo)
Basso continuo: Gerhard Gregor (Organ); Wolfram Hentschel (Violoncello); Gerhard Ullrich (Double-bass)

Norddeutsche Rundfunk in Hamburg

May 16, 1960

Tape / TT:

Recorded in Hamburg, Germany.

3

Bach Kantaten, Vol. 8: BWV 103, BWV 85, BWV 86, BWV 144 [D-8]

 
 

Cantata BWV 86 [15:44]

Diethard Hellmann

Bachchor und Bachorchester Mainz

Unknown vocal soloists; Fred Schweinfurter (Oboe d’amore)

DdM-Records Mitterteich 208001

Late 1960’s ? (P 2008)

CD / TT 65:55

Recorded by SWF at Christuskirche, Mainz, Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany.
Buy this album at:
CD: Musik aus Mitterteich - Hubertus Krämer

4

J.S. Bach: Das Kantatenwerk · Complete Cantatas · Les Cantates, Folge / Vol. 22 (BWV 84-90)
J.S. Bach: Das Kantatenwerk - Sacred Cantatas
Vol. 5 (BWV 79-99)
Bach-2000
Vol. 2: Sacred Cantatas 2 (BWV 48-52, 54-69, 69a, 70-99)
Bach: Cantatas / Kantaten
Vol. 26 (BWV 83-86)

 

Cantata BWV 86 [12:43 / 13:02]

Nikolaus Harnoncourt

Tölzer Knabenchor (Chorus Master: Gerhard Schmidt-Gaden) / Concentus Musicus Wien

Boy Soprano: Wilhelm Wiedl (Soloist of the Tölzer Knabenchor); Alto: Paul Esswood; Tenor: Kurt Equiluz; Bass: Ruud van der Meer
CMW: Oboes d'amore: Jürg Schaeftlein, David Reichenberg; Violins: Alice Harnoncourt, Walter Pfeiffer, Peter Schoberwalter, Wilhelm Mergl, Anita Mitterer, Ingrid Seifert [BWV 86/6], Veronika Schmidt [BWV 86/1,5], Josef de Sordi, Stefan Plott; Violas: Kurt Theiner, Josef de Sordi; Bassoon: Milan Turkovič; Violoncellos: Nikolaus Harnoncourt; Violone: Eduard Hruza; Slide Organ: Herbert Tachezi

Telefunken 6.35364
Teldec 8.35364 ZL & 242 578-2
Teldec 4509-91759-2
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Teldec 3984-25707-2
Teldec 8573-81184-2
Warner Classics 8573-81184-5
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Mar 19 & Apr 14, 17, 23 & May 20, 1977

2-LP / TT: 102 min
2-CD / TT: 103:51
6-CD / TT: 385:16
MP3 / TT: 377:04
15-CD / TT: 963:00
CD / TT: 62:27
CD / TT: 62:27
MP3 / TT: 62:15

Recorded at Casino Zögernitz, Vienna, Austria.
Listen on YouTube:
Cantata BWV 86: Complete Cantata [13:24] | Complete Cantata [13:24]
CD: Cantatas BWV 83, BWV 84, BWV 85, BWV 86 [62:27]
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Music Download CD: Amazon.co.uk | Amazon.de | iTunes





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5

Die Bach Kantate Vol. 34 (Cantatas BWV 85, 87, 43)
Edition Bachakademie Vol. 27 (Cantatas BWV 83-86)

 
 

Cantata BWV 86 [15:45]

Helmuth Rilling

Gächinger Kantorei Stuttgart / Bach-Collegium Stuttgart

Soprano: Arleen Augér; Alto: Helen Watts; Tenor: Adalbert Kraus; Bass: Walter Heldwein
Günther Passin, Hedda Rothweiler (Oboes d'amore); Klaus Tunnemann (Bassoon); Albert Boesen (Violin); Klaus-Peter Hahn (Continuo Cello); Thomas Lom (Double-bass); Hans-Joachim Erhard (Harpsichord, Positive Organ)

Hänssler 98.886
Hänssler 92.027
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CD-1: Feb 1979
CD-2: Feb, Sep 1978; Feb 1979

CD / TT: 59:00
CD / TT: 68:11
MP3 / TT: 68:04

Recorded at Gedächtniskirche Stuttgart, Baden-Württemberg, Germany.
Recording: Tonstudio Teije van Geest, Heidelberg; Recording Supervision: Richard Hauck.
Listen on YouTube:
CD-2: Cantatas BWV 83, BWV 84, BWV 85, BWV 86 [68:10] | Cantatas BWV 83, BWV 84, BWV 85, BWV 86 [68:10]
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CD-2 (2010): Amazon.com | Amazon.co.uk | Amazon.de
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6

J.S. Bach: Complete Cantatas Vol. 9

 
 
 
 

Cantata BWV 86 [13:43]

Ton Koopman

Amsterdam Baroque Orchestra & Choir (Chorus Master: Simon Schouten)

Soprano: Sibylla Rubens; Alto: Bernhard Landauer; Tenor: Christoph Prégardien; Bass: Klaus Mertens
ABO Soloists: Margaret Faultless (Violin); Jaap ter Linden (Cello); Patrick Beaugireaud (Oboe d’amore)
ABC: Sopranos: Vera Lansink, Caroline Stam, Francine van der Heijden, Annemieke Rademaker, Melanie Greve; Altos: Annemieke Cantor, Stephen Carter, Peter de Groot, Hugo Naessens; Tenors: Otto Bouwknegt, Wim-Jan van Deuveren, Henk Gunneman, Geraint Roberts, John Wright; Basses: Donald Bentvelsen, Matthijs Mesdag, René Steur, Kees van Hees
ABO: Violins: Margaret Faultless, Nicola Cleminson, Marc Cooper, Foskien Kooistra, Carla Marotta, Marshall Marcus, Sebastiaan van Vucht, Fanny Pestalozzi, Alida Schat; Violas: Martin Kelly, Katherine McGillivray; Cellos: Jaap ter Linden, Jonathan Manson; Double-bass: Nicholas Pap; Oboes d'amore: Patrick Beaugireaud, Michel Henry, Stefaan Verdegem; Bassoon: Sally Jackson; Lute: Mike Fentross; Organ: Bernard Winsemius [choir]; Organ, Harpsichord: Ton Koopman [recitatives & arias]

Erato 3984-27315-2 Antoine Marchand CC-72209
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Oct 1998

3-CD / TT: 206:05
3-CD / TT: 206:05
MP3 / TT: 205:18

Recorded at Waalse Kerk, Amsterdam, the Netherlands. Producer: Tini Mathot; Sound Engineer & Editing: Adriaan Verstijnen; Production Coordination: Willemijn Mooij.
See: Complete Cantatas Vol. 9 - conducted by Ton Koopman
Listen on YouTube:
Cantata BWV 86: Complete Cantata [13:44]
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7

Bach Edition Vol. 5 - Cantatas Vol. 2
J.S. Bach: Complete Sacred Cantatas, Vol. 5 (BWV 81-100)

 
 
 
 

Cantata BWV 86 [14:10]

Pieter Jan Leusink

Holland Boys Choir / Netherlands Bach Collegium

Soprano: Ruth Holton; Alto: Sytse Buwalda; Tenor: Knut Schoch; Bass: Bas Ramselaar
HBC: Trebles: Anne Jan Leusink, Hans van Roset, Aalt jan van Roest, Jelle Stocker, Herjan Pullen, Gerwin Zwep, Evert Jan Engeltjes, Erik Guldenaar, Jaap Hoogendoors, Henri Noordmans; Counter-tenors: Arjan Dokter, Gerald Engeltjes, Maarten Engeltjes, Arjen Nap, Vincent Groeneveld, Jan Willem Prins, Edwin Smit; Tenors: Martinus Leusink, Frans Benschop, Cor van Twillert, Marijn Takken, Peter Bloemendaal, Jan Pullen; Basses: Jeroen Assink, Jim Groenevald, Sebastian Holz, Huib van Hinsbergen, Klaas Alberts, Piet Schuyn, Gerrit van Haaken
NBC: Violins: John Wilson Meyer [Concert-master, Solo], Laura Johnson, Pieter Affourtit, Elin Eriksson, Foskien Kooistra, Jun Okada, Mimi Mitchel, Fiorenza De Donatis; Violas: Jan Willem Vis, Simon Murphy, Örsze Adam, Bernadette Verhagen; Violoncellos: Frank Wakelkamp, Thomas Pitt; Double-bass: Robert Franenberg, Maggie Urquhart, Jan Hollestelle; Oboes: Peter Frankenberg, Ofer Frenkel, Eduard Wesley, Fernmando Souza; Bassoons: Trudy va der Wulp, Norbert Kunst; Organ: Vaughan Schlepp, Rien Voskuilen, Stephen Taylor

Brilliant Classics 99364
Brilliant Classics

Apr-Sep 1999

5-CD / TT: 297:16
MP3 / TT: 380:23

Recorded at St. Nicolaschurch, Elburg, the Netherlands.
Production Manager: Christine Schreuder; Artistic Director: Pieter Jan Leusink; Recording: Clavigram Leerdam; Producer/editing: Jean van Vugt; Balance Engineer & Recording Engineer: Louis van Emmerk.
See: Bach Edition Vol. 4 & 5 - Cantatas Vol. 1 & 2 - conducted by Pieter Jan Leusink
Listen on YouTube:
Cantata BWV 86: Complete Cantata [14:19]
CD: Cantatas BWV 135, BWV 86, BWV 85, BWV 187 [64:46]
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8

Bach Cantatas Vol. 25: Dresden/Sherborne
For the 5th Sunday after Easter (Rogate) (BWV 86, 87, 97)
For the Sunday after Ascension Day (Exaudi) (BWV 44, 150, 183)

 
 
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2.

Cantata BWV 86 [13:03]

John Eliot Gardiner

Monteverdi Choir / English Baroque Soloists

Soprano: Katharine Fuge; Counter-tenor: Robin Tyson; Tenor: Steve Davisilim; Bass: Stephan Loges
MC: Sopranos: Katharine Fuge, Nicola Jenkin, Elin Manahan Thomas, Donna Deam, Suzanne Flowers, Lucinda Houghton, Rachel Wheatley, Elisabeth Priday; Altos: David Clegg, Charles Humphries, Robin Tyson, Frances Jellard; Tenors: Vernon Kirk, Paul Tindall, Nicolas Robertson, Simon Davies; Basses: Julian Clarkson, Thomas Guthrie, Alexander Ashworth, Lawrence Wallington
EBS: Violins 1: Kati Debretzeni, Anne Schumann, Sarah Bealby-Wright, Matthew Truscott, Deirdre Ward; Violins 2: Peter Lissauer, Henrietta Wayne, Hildburg Williams, Emilia Benjamin; Violas: Annette Isserlis, Nicola Akeroyd, Mari Giske; Cellos: Melanie Beck, Catherine Rimer; Double-bass: Cecelia Bruggemeyer; Oboes: Katherina Arfken, Mark Baigent, Catherine Latham; Bassoon: Ursula Leveaux; Harpsichord: Jan Waterfield; Organ: Robert Quinney

Soli Deo Gloria SDG-144
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May 27-28, 2000

2-CD / TT: 107:50
MP3 / T: 106:45

Live recordings from the Bach Cantata Pilgrimage, at Annenkirche, Dresden, Saxony, Germany.
Producer: Isabella de Sabata; Balance Engineer: Erdo Groot (Polyhymnia International BV); Recording Engineers: Thijs Hoekstra (Polyhymnia), Mario Nozza (Eurosound); Tape Editors: Sebastian Stein, Everett Porter; Edition by Reinhold Kubik, published by Breitkopf & Härtel; Series Executive Producer: Isabella de Sabata.
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9

J.S. Bach: Cantatas Vol. 19 - Cantatas from Leipzig 1724 (BWV 86, 37, 104, 166)

 
 

Cantata BWV 86 [12:47]

Masaaki Suzuki

Bach Collegium Japan

Soprano: Yukari Nonoshita; Counter-tenor: Robin Blaze; Tenor: Makoto Sakurada; Bass: Stephan MacLeod
Chorus: Sopranos: Yukari Nonoshita, Yoshie Hida, Mihoko Hoshikawa, Naoco Kaketa; Altos: Robin Blaze, Tamaki Suzuki, Yukie Tamura, Sumihito Uesugi; Tenors: Makoto Sakurada, Hiroyuki Harada, Satoshi Mizukoshi, Yosuke Taniguchi; Basses: Stephan MacLeod, Yoshiya Hida, Tetsuya Oi (as Tetsuya Oh'i), Chiyuki Urano
Orchestra [Leader: Natsumi Wakamatsu]: Oboes: Masamitsu San'nomiya [Oboe d’amore I], Atsuko Ozaki [Oboe da caccia], Koji Ezaki [Oboe d’amore II]; Violins 1: Natsumi Wakamatsu [Solo], Paul Herrera, Yuko Takeshima; Violins 2: Azumi Takada, Yuko Araki, Kaori Toda; Violas: Yoshiko Morita, Amiko Watabe
Continuo: Violoncellos: Hidemi Suzuki, Mime Yamahiro; Double-bass: Seiji Nishizawa; Bassoon: Seiichi Futakuchi; Organ: Masaaki Suzuki, Naoko Imai

BIS CD-1261
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Jun 30 / Jul 4, 2001

CD / TT: 63:53
MP3 / TT: 63:44

Recorded at the Kobe Shoin Women's University Chapel, Japan.
Balance Engineer: Thore Brinkmann; Producer: Dirk Lüdemann; Digital Editing: Dirk Lüdemann.
See: Cantatas Vol. 19 - conducted by Masaaki Suzuki
Listen on YouTube:
Cantata BWV 86: Mvt. 3: Chorale [S] [1:58] | Mvt. 3: Chorale [S] [1:48]
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10

J.S. Bach: Cantatas for the Complete Liturgical Year Vol. 10: "Himmelfahrts-Oratorium " (Cantatas BWV 108, 86, 11, 44)

 

Cantata BWV 86 [13:01]

Sigiswald Kuijken

(OVPP - No Choir) / La Petite Bande

Soprano: Siri Thornhill; Alto: Petra Noskaiova; Tenor: Christoph Genz; Bass: Jan Van der Crabben

Accent ACC-25310
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Apr 30-May 1, 2008

SACD / TT: 73:23
MP3 / TT: 73:23

Recorded at Predikherenkerk, Leuven, Belgium.
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11

J.S. Bach: Wahrlich, wahrlich, ich sage euch, BWV 86 [C-24]

 

Cantata BWV 86 []

Salamon Kamp

Lutherania Choir & Chamber orchestra (Lutheránia énekkar és kamarazenekar)

Soprano: Mária Zádori; Alto: Katalin Gémes (planned: Judit Németh); Tenor: Zoltán Megyesi; Bass: Holló Csaba

Lutherania

May 9, 2010

MP3 / TT:

Recorded live at Deák téri evangélikus templom (Lutheran Church), Budapest, Hungary.
Download from: Lutherania: Recordings [MP3]

12

J.S. Bach: Kantate BWV 86 "Wahrlich, wahrlich, ich sage euch" [D-79]
Bach-Kantaten-Edition der Bach-Stiftung St. Gallen: Bach erlebt VIII - Das Bach-Jahr 2014

 
 

Cantata BWV 86 []

Conductor & Harpsichord: Rudolf Lutz
Reflection lecture: Manfred Koch

Chor & Orchester der J.S. Bach-Stiftung

Soloists: Alto: Terry Wey; Tenor: Johannes Kaleschke; Bass: Markus Volpert
Choir: Sopranos: Lia Andres, Susanne Seitter, Alexa Vogel; Alto: Jan Börner
Orchestra: Violins: Plamena Nikitassova, Dorothee Mühleisen, Peter Barczi, Christine Baumann, Eva Borhi, Christoph Rudolf; Violas: Martina Bischof, Matthias Jäggi, Sarah Krone; Violoncello: Maya Amrein; Violone: Iris Finkbeiner; Oboes d'amore: Kerstin Kramp, Andreas Helm; Bassoon: Susann Landert; Organ: Nicola Cumer

J.S. Bach Stiftung St. Gallen ýB196
J.S. Bach Stiftung St. Gallen

May 23, 2014

DVD / TT: 75 min
11-DVD / TT: 937 min

Recorded live at Evangelische Kirche, Trogen, Switzerland, in the frame of J.S. Bach-Stiftung, St. Gallen: Cantata Series.
The DVD contains film recordings of the complete cantata performance, the musical and theological introductory workshop, and reflection lecture on the cantata text. The DVD also features a documentary in German, English and Spanish on the making of our sound and image recordings and their distribution across the world.
Recording & Production: Sound Engineers: Stefan Ritzenthaler, Johannes Widmer; Producer: Meinrad Keel; Production: Gallus Media AG, Switzerland; DVD format: PAL.
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The list of recordings was compiled by Aryeh Oron (May 2000 - May 2016)
Thanks to contributors: Frits V. Herbold (February 2012, April 2012)

Cantata BWV 86: Details & Complete Recordings | Recordings of Individual Movements
Discussions:
Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3 | Part 4

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